Trigger outs

As some of you may know I'm thinking about an addon PCB to add trigger outs to the LXR.
At the moment I think of something like:
- 7 trigger outs (5V), one for each seq. track
- 1 or 2 clock outputs with adjustable prescaler
- 1 Start/Reset out (high when stopped, low when running)

Maybe also
- 1 clock input to sync to analog gear
- start/reset input

what do you think? something missing?
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  • Will it be "internal" to the standard case and or need a custom back plate?

    Will it be an add-on on future main pcb revisions too?

    Will it be a PCB only affair or offered as an add-on kit?

    Target estimated price?

    Too many questions I know, but I just like to plan ahead
  • Sounds nice.
    My modular (and related knowledge) is still very small, but i think thats all one would need.

    This is basically gonna be some 74hc156 and 595 that connect to the expansion header on the serial bus, right?




  • - Probably needs a custom backplate for all the 3.5 mini jacks.
    - It will stay as an addon, since the frontpanel PCB is already VERY crowded.
    I doubt it is usefull for everybody. It was not before my first 6HU that I ever used the CV/Gate outs on my xoxbox.
    - PCB only/kit - not decided yet. It will be a very small PCB, in the end it is just a buffered 3V3 -> 5V converter.
    - price: no idea yet. I hope cheap! Hard to say without a designed PCB and good ol' fcd72 missing in schneiders laden ;)
  • @loderbast I think the serial headers on the expansion port would not be fast enough for a tight timing.
    probably you will need to solder some cables.
    Never wanted triggers in the first place, then came my eurorack, and now i neeeeed them! *G*
    :( i resisted sooo long not to get a propper modular. Damn you frank and your little dieter *shake fist*
  • i see.
    soldering cables is no problem.

    i didn't know you got an eurorack.
    looking forward to some sp modules :)

    i'ts time i finish all the module pcbs i got in my stack.




  • As some of you may know I'm thinking about an addon PCB to add trigger outs to the LXR.
    At the moment I think of something like:
    - 7 trigger outs (5V), one for each seq. track
    - 1 or 2 clock outputs with adjustable prescaler
    - 1 Start/Reset out (high when stopped, low when running)

    Maybe also
    - 1 clock input to sync to analog gear
    - start/reset input

    what do you think? something missing?


    +1 to all
  • Sounds like a great addition!

    What about some trigger status LEDs as an option?
    Sooner or later we all end up on the modular path :)
  • are the blinking LEDs on the voice buttons not enough? they flash with every triggered note.

  • Well, I thought the triggers were separate from the internal voices. LOL, then it's fine as it is :D
  • Love the idea! I hope there will be extra trigger tracks so you can use 14 sounds !  :-))
  • I would be interested.
  • sorry, no extra tracks. ;)
  • Dip switches for S-trig or V-gate on each trigger out? :)
  • I'm not too firm with trigger types.
    Is s-trigger just an inverted v-trigger?
    The description confuses me a little, on the one hand wikipedia says it is inverted, on the other hand it says s-trigger is a short circuit which in my book is something different than just making the line a logic zero.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CV/Gate#Gate
  • s-trigger is a switch trigger. so it's basicly a switch. it connects to ground. i think you don't need s-trigger. nice to have would be a few choices on trigger length and 5v or 10v ...
  • 10V would be difficult since the highest power used is 5V on the board.
    This would need some kind of step up transformer.

    ok, so for s-trig you would need a transistor controlled by the v-trig.
    http://www.synthdiy.com/files/2001/moog_trigger-convert.jpg
    maybe if there is some spare space on the PCB ;)
  • 5 volt is normally enough to fire an adsr which would then normally rise to 10 volt anyway.. bring it on julian!
    just a schematic and where it connects to & i will test it
    :D
  • Count me in for this ;)
  • probably won't happen before batch 2 ;)
  • This would be great!
  • prototype board is ordered :)
    The outputs will be switchable between V-Trig and S-Trig via jumpers.
    Inputs will be V-Trig only.
    number and type of IOs as above...
  • Maybe this is the right place to ask: would it be possible to use one of the Midi jacks as a Din/Sync jack? Since they are already there and maybe someone would love to sync his 202 to the LXR on the fly ;) Just start/stop and clock. Would that be hard to implement into an upcoming firmware?
  • Sorry, not possible.
    The pinout of the DIN sync differs too much from the midi out :-/
    The only option would be to use the trigger extension IO board and add a special 3.5mm to DIN adapter cable.
  • I see. Didn't know about the pinout. I'm gonna have to find my good old KMS30 then. I put away all my music-stuff about 6 years ago when I was moving ... time to dig it out!
  • As some of you may know I'm thinking about an addon PCB to add trigger outs to the LXR.
    At the moment I think of something like:
    - 7 trigger outs (5V), one for each seq. track
    - 1 or 2 clock outputs with adjustable prescaler
    - 1 Start/Reset out (high when stopped, low when running)

    Maybe also
    - 1 clock input to sync to analog gear
    - start/reset input

    what do you think? something missing?
    i think that would be a great!
  • I'd be very interested in this too !
    A PCB would be great, no need for a kit as far as I'm concerned...

    Any news ?
  • Didn't I already see pictures of an LXR with the trigger mod? That led me to believe that this trigger mod was already finished!
  • That was someone's own attempt at making the trigger outs (on that beautiful metal lxr iirc).  I think Julian said it's really just a 3.3v > 5v conversion.  All the pinouts are on the expansion header.

    clock and start/reset inputs would be amazing!
  • I just received a batch of new prototype boards of the trigger IO yesterday (20pc).
    I will test them today.
    Then only the matching standoffs and a custom backplate from frank is missing.
  • dammit! I've dun goofed! >:(
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    the 3rd drill hole is missaligned with the enclosure.
    note to self: always print out the designs first!

    besides that everything seems fine so far.
    I could re-drill the hole on the correct position for this early batch of PCBs, but it won't look nice.
    maybe for some discount anyone would be interested in those 'ugly' boards?
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