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Wishlist: load/save individual voices

borfoborfo
edited October 2013 in Feature requests and bug reports
It would be great to eventually be able to load and save individual voices, rather than just being able to save kits...  So you could select the snare from one kit and the hihat from another move it into a new kit, or just spend time working on getting individual voices right, save them as an individual voice, and share them or construct kits from them later.  This would also make it easier for us all to share voices that we've built.  I'm thinking loading could work like this:

- hit load/save button
- hit individual voice button that you want to load
- screen displays voices that are compatible with the voice button
--- gives you the option of loading that button's voice from a saved kit or loading an individually saved voice

To save a voice, hit load/save, hit the button for the voice you want to save, hit load/save again, navigate to "ok".  Maybe there could be an option to save the voice into the same button position in an already saved kit.

As discussed in the transient/sample thread, it'd be nice to save the samples with the voice, but there are issues with wearing out the flash - if samples wind up being read from the SD card though, this would seemingly be possible.

Also, it'd be good to save voices as discrete copies rather than as references to one copy of the voice so that making a change to a voice in one kit doesn't change that voice anywhere else...
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Comments

  • KonDitionKonDition
    +1
  • drkorgdrkorg
    +1
  • tsvtsv
    +1
  • davide37davide37
    +1
  • MöbiusMöbius
    +1
  • aerroraerror
    +2 :D
  • implantimplant
    +3 ;-)
  • sackley85sackley85
    ++
  • MazomoMazomo
    +1
  • MöbiusMöbius
    I hope that this option will be implemented in the future!
    Maybe it makes sense to be able to select categories for each voice.
    This might help to find specific sounds later.
  • billieblazebillieblaze
    +1!   

    my electribe has a "sample" mode, where i can tweak and tune samples, then overwrite or save new.    it'd be stupid awesome to be able to crank out 5-6 kicks one day..  a few snares another day..  then, obviously join my individual "drums"  into kits. 

  • DayflightDayflight
    +1 Yes
  • owensandsowensands
    +1000 ;) Would be great.
  • snksnk
    +1 !
  • TebbesTebbes
    + 1, definitely a cool idea!
  • MaxDFBMaxDFB
    +1
  • julianjulian
    would just the ability to load a single instrument from another kit would be a good start?
    I think it should be not too hard to implement for example a "load only snare" function.

    Not sure if it would be better to introduce single sound savefiles (snare files, kick files etc)
    or just load the single sounds from existing kits.
     when loading directly from the other kits you would not have to save the single sounds first.
    on the other hand if you really go crazy and create just 20 different kicks it would probably be easier to introduce the single sound files than having 20 kits where just the kick is good...

    hmmmm... I'll have a look into the code how it would be done in the best way...
  • drkorgdrkorg
    My vote for single file. So you can program a drum pattern and then easily browse your drums of the same kind.
    Single file for all drums and pattern. Saving a performance creates a folder with all the voice and pattern files and a settings file. Then its easy to share different sounds or complete kits (folders) and you can arrange kits with different sounds from your computer if you need.

    Just some thoughts.. :)
  • snksnk
    edited March 2014
    " if you really go crazy and create just 20 different kicks it would
    probably be easier to introduce the single sound files than having 20
    kits where just the kick is good..."

    Yes, i'm quite this kind of guy... ;)
    I like to be able to load all at once, a all-in-one solution, but also, when i am working on a pattern or a kit, if i come with an interesting sound, i wish i could save it for later, while keeping on working on my current pattern/kit.
    And sometimes (often), when i focus on a sound (a snare, for instance), it happens that i create several nice snares, not fitting with the global kit i'm working on, but that i will want to save for later use.
  • MaxDFBMaxDFB
    I'd agree on single files. It would be less confusing at least the way I'm using LXR:

    Oh, and another suggestion for empty slots: Maybe don't call'em 'Empty' but something like ' - ' because my file names are often 3 letters or less and then I've to replace all remaining letters by whitespaces. :)
  • MöbiusMöbius
    edited March 2014
    I would also suggest single files for the voices.
    Maybe it is possible to add some entries in the load menu.
    This would be really great and will give us the ability to shuffle existing kits or to share individual voices.
  • youkonyoukon

    I would like something like:

    when on load kit page - e.g. press SHIFT + SNARE - rotate through your drumkits - only snare would change

  • brendanclarkebrendanclarke
    ehhhhh..... I'm with julian on this, I think kits should be the most granular storage for voices, but being able to 'bring in' voices from other kits would be a good compromise. I do a lot of inter-modulation between voices in a kit with both the lfo's and sequencer automation, to the point that rotating one voice would change the whole sound. I think the LXR is truly unique in that the drum kits are very much an 'ensemble' rather than quarantined parts. In any case, I think there's plenty of space in the 'load' menu to add a 'Load: Drum1' etc with the same list of kits in there.
  • prontoldprontold

    I would like something like:

    when on load kit page - e.g. press SHIFT + SNARE - rotate through your drumkits - only snare would change
    Yes! That's how the Tempest does it and it's a great feature for machines as deep and versatile as these two.


    ehhhhh..... I'm with julian on this, I think kits should be the most granular storage for voices, but being able to 'bring in' voices from other kits would be a good compromise. I do a lot of inter-modulation between voices in a kit with both the lfo's and sequencer automation, to the point that rotating one voice would change the whole sound. I think the LXR is truly unique in that the drum kits are very much an 'ensemble' rather than quarantined parts. In any case, I think there's plenty of space in the 'load' menu to add a 'Load: Drum1' etc with the same list of kits in there.
    Preferably you could still save/load full kits. Also I think the sequencer automation (not sure what you mean about modulating between voices) is saved with the sequences/beats right?
  • smilansmilan
    is this implemented already?
  • brendanclarkebrendanclarke
    haha :) just finished this in my firmware. It's a work in progress, so do back up your SD card before embarking on the adventure.

    Note that I had to change a LOT of code in the load/save menu to get this working properly, so the function of the knobs in these menus is somewhat different.

    The firmware and full details are in:
    http://www.brendanclarke.com/files/LXR/

    read the readme! there are a number of additions/tweaks beyond just this!
  • smilansmilan
    edited November 2014
    ok, thanks for your work, I will try it later, i am busy in the moment with other staff!

    ps

    actually now could be a good tome to try it out since i am just starting with incorporating my lxr in to my set up and don't have anything  important saved on my lxr.
  • smilansmilan
    hey ! great functions, i like toggle shift button and instant pattern switching, great ideas! minor bug i have noticed ( did not happened before), when powering lxr some leds stay lit, pressing anything turn them off. 
  • brendanclarkebrendanclarke
    Yup! it's a known bug and on my to-do list. It only happens when shift is set to toggle and the global settings are saved. I'll nip it one of these days, but it's a fairly low priority because it only happens in power-on and doesn't affect usability at all :)
  • lucha77lucha77
    Hello.

    Has this been updated in the firmware yet? Is it possible to save single sounds as presets?
    I don't have an LXR but am thinking about buying one.



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