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Wishlist: master mix controls that affect all voices

borfoborfo
edited November 2013 in Feature requests and bug reports
I've been noticing that the pan and audio output settings on some of the voices get messed up sometimes, like I'll notice a voice is only coming out of one speaker and find the voice's pan set to "3", or the audio output is set to L1 or something when I never intended to change those settings...  Probably nudged a knob when adjusting volume or whatever.

It would be handy to have a master mix menu where the settings affect all voices - maybe you could access this by going into the global settings menu, then pressing the 8th select button.  That could bring up the mix menu that comes up for voices (vol-pan-sr-drv-out-len-ch), but any settings you change would affect the settings for all of the voices.  That way you could make sure all the voices were panned properly or going out the right outputs without having to check each voice.

A master volume setting might also be nice.

Comments

  • tsvtsv
    +1!


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  • MazomoMazomo
    +1, especially on the master volume setting.
  • fcd72fcd72
    I dont like the idea of a master Volume as there is no dedicated VCA to adjust volume in the anlalog world. Lowering Volume in the digital signal means reducing the resolutuion of the audio signal - and audio is what we love about the LXR most, dont we?
  • loderbastloderbast
    i am with fcd on the master volume.
    some kind of global page, "mixer" page or something like the performance page on the ambika is a nice idea though.
  • julianjulian
    added to the nice to have list.
    some kind of sound parameter performance page is something I have on my mind for a while now, but I'm not quite sure what would make sense there...
  • MazomoMazomo
    @fcd72: Now that I know this, I might change my mind about a master volume setting ;).
    When I understand it correctly, in order to have an adjustable master volume, I'd have to mod the LXR and add an output with a dedicated amplifier (like a headphone amp)?

    I'm really new to electronics, so please excuse my silly questions ;)
  • julianjulian
    a simple pot as voltage divider would be sufficient.
    The problem I see with a master out control is the output routing.
    You need 1 potentiometer for each output.
    so you can either use 4 independent pots (4xmono)
    or 2 stereo pots, but cant control the mono outs in dividually any more...
  • fcd72fcd72
    edited November 2013
    + Stereo Pots never match exactly both channels.

    To control the output Volume via Software (and thats what you wanted, right) you need a Voltage Controlled Attenuator + an amplifier, commonly known as VCA and some parts that convert your digital Value in a control Voltage that controls your VCA known as D/A converters.

    A proper implementation would be having an VCA per channel. So you need 2 TL072 OP Amps (or 1 TL074 and now lts discuss fancier OpAmps for "optimized" Sound), 1 V2164 Quad VCA or 2 LM13700 Tranconductance Amplifiers, 1 MPC8002 Dual D/A Converter (better 2 for individual control of the 4 Channels in Mono Mode...) and some Resistors and Caps and other plumbing parts. 

    Or you just do it the "Pro" way and use your Mixers Fader  :x
    BTW, on my Setup i have every Volume set to Max at the Synths.....
  • nightworxxnightworxx
    edited November 2013
    Exactamente: the hotter you drive the input range of your interfaces (as hot as they can bare without clipping), the less pre-amplification is needed on the input channel AD. In case that (i guess) least of us use Metric Halo/Apogee/UAD interfaces, the less noise will be risen by amplification that way. In 99% of all cases this means pedal-to-the-metal in the volume settings of synts/sampler/whatthefuckever...
  • fcd72fcd72
    @nightworxx
    As if anybody would care about and hear noise after brickwalllimiting for the loudness war and then MP3ing...
  • nightworxxnightworxx
    You forgot to mention listening to these MP3s on an iPhone loudspeaker...
  • MazomoMazomo
    + Stereo Pots never match exactly both channels.

    To control the output Volume via Software (and thats what you wanted, right) you need a Voltage Controlled Attenuator + an amplifier, commonly known as VCA and some parts that convert your digital Value in a control Voltage that controls your VCA known as D/A converters.

    A proper implementation would be having an VCA per channel. So you need 2 TL072 OP Amps (or 1 TL074 and now lts discuss fancier OpAmps for "optimized" Sound), 1 V2164 Quad VCA or 2 LM13700 Tranconductance Amplifiers, 1 MPC8002 Dual D/A Converter (better 2 for individual control of the 4 Channels in Mono Mode...) and some Resistors and Caps and other plumbing parts. 

    Or you just do it the "Pro" way and use your Mixers Fader  :x
    BTW, on my Setup i have every Volume set to Max at the Synths.....
    The day that I can put these informations to use will surely come, until then I just stick to the faders of my mixer ;).
    Thanks anyway!
  • fcd72fcd72
    @nightworxx
    Kids of today, being tortured by these cheap crappy Piezo speakers in every toy they had since they were about 3 days old actually define an iPhone speaker as HiFi....
  • tsvtsv
    I'm using the LXR with a mixer. Outs 1 and 2 are kick and snare and 3/4 is a stereo mix of the other voices. That's working well and I haven't felt the need to have a master volume control.

    A performance mixer page would be cool. In voice mode I'm happy enough since selecting the next voice will keep you in mixer mode for it as well.

    I would still love a master filter!

    Thanks.


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