Inpossible to sync the LXR with my DAW with Midi In/Out, and a led problem !

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  • regarding your non starting sequencer-are you sure your midi io on the lxr is working?
    can you play instruments using a midi keyboard? or do you have some midi monitor software like 'midi ox' to makesure the LXR is sending something?
  • yes, i can play the drumsounds using the lxr. 

    at the moment i don't have a connection to my computer since i am trying to avoid it generally :) i tried other things as well, just to be sure its not the other component. but the x0x does trigger the elektron and the elektron triggers the x0x.
  • edited September 2013
    ok, tried midi-ox and it doesnt receive nor is it able to send sync from/to the lxr

    wait, another test after restart and now when i hit play in midi-ox, the lxr starts and immediately stops playing. as soon as i unplug the audio outs, it starts synced by midi-ox. just like with the other hardware. seems it definately has to do with those audio-outs (how this ever can be, i dont understand)
  • could you check for a short between pins 37 to 40 on P2 (the mainboard connector faced to the potentiometer side). they are labeled "midi in, midi out, adc14, adc0"

    both adc pins are connected to the switches in the audio jacks, to recognize if a plug is inserted into the jack.
    both midi pins are right next to them.
  • edited September 2013
    it seems that there is a short between adc0 and adc14. but not between any of them against midi in or out... what to do now?

    ok, i soldered here an there, just where it looked like there could jump some electrons. still no success. 
    however, i went back to 0.21 and now under whatever circumstances it sometimes starts playing when i start the a4. i'll go up to 0.23 and see what happens. seems a bit unreliable at the moment. sometimes it starts sometimes not
  • the short is normal aslong as no plug is inserted into jack 1+2. then both pins are tied to aGND.
    I assume only out 1+2 are affecting midi? not out 3+4?

    could you maybe post a closeup picture of the solder joints for those pins?
    how did you measure for a short?


  • it was happening also with port 3 or 4. didnt matter which port. just when there was plugged an audiocable.
    i'll try to shot something
  • additional info: when i power up the lxr and the midi in is plugged, syncing doesnt work. if i power up with no midi in and attach midi cable after startup, it seems to work every second start. dunno
  • gone up to 0.23 and now it sometimes sync and sometimes not. the audio ports dont affect it anymore, so maybe the oversoldering helped on that. 

    anyhow, directly after powering up my hardware (i have one main switch for all) it doesnt work directly. i need to change bpm up and down to zero. press play sometimes and then it starts (if lucky) could it be that there is some midi data which goes in on startup and confuses the lxr?
  • It may be due to the sync bug I found today. When midi clock signals where received after booting and before pressing play the LXR can freeze. I try to upload a fix in the next half hour (son did not want to sleep today, but is now finally in bed), maybe this will solve your problem.
  • sounds plausible. let's see :)
  • ok - http://sonic-potions.com/public/FIRMWARE.BIN
    try if this version works.

    if not, just for clarification
    MIDI in general was working.
    you only had problems with midi sync?
    or was MIDI completely dead?
  • much better now. still starts not every time, but generally it starts :)

    general midi did work, just syncing didn't
  • Just tried it and the issue seems to be gone. :) Excellent!
  • fyi, the situation when it doesnt work occurs when i press stop on the a4 twice (maybe a transport message)
    all other situations work stable
  • edited October 2013
    gone up to 0.23 and now it sometimes sync and sometimes not. the audio ports dont affect it anymore, so maybe the oversoldering helped on that. 

    anyhow, directly after powering up my hardware (i have one main switch for all) it doesnt work directly. i need to change bpm up and down to zero. press play sometimes and then it starts (if lucky) could it be that there is some midi data which goes in on startup and confuses the lxr?
    I am experiencing this also - sync rarely works automatically by setting BPM to zero - when it did work it usually needed a few repeat changes of the BPM down to zero and hitting the play + stop buttons a few times. 

    Thinking it might be the midi port solder as the port appeared to be a bit loose and possibly have a bad connection,  I have just removed the LCD which was awkward, but the midi port looks well soldered. I'll put it back together but wanted to check if unreliability with sync has already been fixed in the sampling beta? (I also had the problem with the latest release firmware.)
  • edited October 2013
    Also the midi sync works when the audio sockets aren't plugged in. 

    Also when I change to the firmware posted above. 

    Took off the front panel, and with audio plugged in, midi sync now works. 

    It seems to be related to pressure on the LCD is causing midi sync to stop. Perhaps it is pushing the midi contacts on the midi socket out of circuit. 
  • my solution is not to put the top left little black screw to hard. as soon as i screw it to the max sync is gone. when i have it a bit loose it works... thats how i am having fun with my lxr. and i can tell you, i am having a lot of fun :) http://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/18842332
  • my solution is not to put the top left little black screw to hard. as soon as i screw it to the max sync is gone. when i have it a bit loose it works... thats how i am having fun with my lxr. and i can tell you, i am having a lot of fun :) http://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/18842332
    I might try either putting some supports beneath the lcd card or better might be cutting a hole in the plexiglass to prevent it from getting pressed down. The case seems to push the LCD down causing this midi error. Too much pressing the lcd starts to mess up the text, so I guess is interfering with the lcd boards pins. I tried putting some thin cardboard beneath the lcd card, in case there were shorts, but that didn't help so I guess it isn't a short between the lcd card circuits and solder on the board beneath ... 
  • yep, i tried that, too.
  • With no front panel on, I can only boot while pressing the bottom edge of the lcd panel downwards, sync will only work when i release the pressure on the lcd. However then my lcd text is corrupted when i try some menus. 

    if i keep the pressure on the lcd, then i can use the lxr fine, but midi in doesn't work. 

    I might have to detach the lcd again and try resolder all the pins afresh. 

  • edited October 2013
    you also might want to resolder the pins of the optocoupler and the diode and resistors around it. (its what handles midi in)
  • Took off LCD again, trimmed and resoldered everything beneath it even though they all looked ok. Resoldered the pins, re-attached the LCD.

    1st try .... it works. What a relief. detaching and reattaching the LCD is not fun. Must have been some bad solder somewhere. 

    Screwed case and front panel together - reboot - and it works with sync!

    Hopefully back to rock solid again.


  • edited October 2013
    I'm also experiencing issues with the midi sync function.

    I noticed I also need to press play and set the bpm to '0' on the LXR to sync it with my DAW as mentioned by other users.

    More importantly, the play/pause buttons in my sequencer seem to have no effect on the machine.

    I'm using FL Studio and the latest firmware (0.24).
  • When Tempo is st to 0 no problems here with syncing the LXR with a Cirklon.
  • edited January 2017
    Hi!
    I have a freshly built LXR and I'm not able to sync it to an external source. 
    It doesn't work with a midi cable, nor with the USB midi although the midi port is recognized in Logic.
    So if I chose the "Sonic Potions USB Midi" port in Logic and CCW BPM to 0, nothing happens.
    It seems like Midi Note isn't working either.
    BUT
    Midi out from the LXR works (at least sync, did not try notes), as I am able to sync my Quicksilver TR-606 with the LXR as Master.
    Also, I'm sure that my Midi interface sends a clock, as if I directly plug my Quicksilver TR-606 to it, the 606 is synced...
    Maybe I'm missing a step here...
    Is there something else to do to get the LXR synced to and external source than just setting BMP to 0?
    Thanks in advance, I'm a bit confused here...
  • Yup, take a look in the manual. In one of the last firmwares the filtering of MIDI has been altered heavily.
    And MIDI channels are now assignable to voices and/or global.
  • Thank you very much nightworxx! Eventually this add-on to this thread will be useful to other lazy LXR owners... :-)
  • I've very annoying timing problems syncing with ableton. At the moment i'm only using the lxr via midi/usb to sequence my drumracks in ableton. I've adjusted the internal latency over and over. sometimes it work fine for a little moment, but then it starts to get off the grid. i've tried master/slave changes in both ways. but the lxr isnt able to get a tight "1" to ableton when i want to record a clip.
    bpm ist set to "0" and txf/rxf is set to all in slave-mode.

    any suggestions?

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